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Re: Dyar b. 1808 GA, m. Rhoda Russell, b. 1806 SC: Who are his Parents?
Posted by: jc (ID *****5058) Date: January 26, 2007 at 13:48:30
In Reply to: Dyar b. 1808 GA, m. Rhoda Russell, b. 1806 SC: Who are his Parents? by Cathy Pickard of 435

I am not related, just sharing. You may wish to contact the researcher to share your information. Warm regards, Jane Curci "jc" wmcurci@aol.com

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Contact: Kip Sharp
Kip.Sharp@usm.edu
ID: I515000926
Name: Elisha DYAR
Given Name: Elisha
Surname: Dyar
Sex: M
Birth: 6 May 1763 in Great Falls, Fairfax County, VA
Death: 21 May 1846 in Franklin County, GA
Burial: Abt 1846 New Prospect Baptist Cemetery, Hartwell, Hart County, GA
Note:
He fought with his father in the American Revolution.
Declaration in order to obtain the Benefit of the Act of Congress passed 7th June 1832.
State of Georgia County of Franklin
On this third day of September in the year Eighteen Hundred and Thirty two, personally appeared before the Interior Court of the County and State aforesaid, now sitting for ordinary purposes, Elisha Dyer a resident of Captain Newells Dist. in the County and State aforesaid, aged sixty nine years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7, 1832.
That he entered the service of the United States in the Militia of North Carolina in Granville County in said state in March 1778 (then but sixteen years old) under Captain Abram Potter and Col. Farra, was marched to Briar Creek and was in a skirmish with the British at Stono, South Carolina, shortly afterwards was discharged by Capt. Carrington of Orange County, N.C. and returned home. Again entered the N.C. Militia in Granville County about two months before Gates' defeat near Camden, S.C. 1780 under Capt. Peter Bennett and Col. Ambrose Ramsey of Guilford and General Butler and was marched to Cross Creek (near Fayetteville) and was placed under command of General Caswell, was kept scouting until they were marched to Camden, S.C. and placed under #~ General Gates at which
time his father sent one Jesse Gaskins to serve out the remainder of the tour, as it was the ~ sickly season was discharged by CoI. Ramsey.
He again entered the N. C. Militia at Granville County previous to the Battle of Guilford March 1781, was under Capt. John Henderson, Col. Malbady (a French Officer) and General Green, was in the battle at Guilford, was marched near Fayetteville and was discharged for a three month tour by Captain Henderson.
Again entered the North Carolina Militia at Hillsborough under Captain Frederick Debo (or Dubois) from Caswell County, N. C. in (month not recollected) 1872, where he was stationed as a guard to the legislature then sitting, was under Col. Hugh Tinnon and was discharged by Capt. Dubo for a three month tour. Served altogether twelve months, that is four tours of three months each as a private soldier and served three months in addition to ~ the above as an express under Col. Potts at Hillsboro
and found his own horse as a volunteer.
1. Was born in Virginia near the Big Falls of Potomac in May 1763.
2. Has a record of his age now in his possession.
3. When called into service was living in Granville Co., N.C. From there removed after the War to Rockingham Co., N.C., thence he removed to Pendleton, S.C., thence to Georgia about the year 1800, and has resided ever since in Franklin County except seven years he resided in Walton
Co., Ga. and removed back about four years since to Franklin.
4. Was never drafted, always volunteered and never served as a substitute. Has stated the names of all the regular officers he recol1ected.
5. Received four discharges, one from Capt. Carrington, one from Col. Ramsey, one from Capt. Henderson and one from Capt. DeBeau or Debo all which went with his sister in a chest to the Western Country and does not
know where she lives or whether she is alive.
6. He is known in his present neighborhood to James Cash, who saw and knew him in the service and Jesse McMillion who can testify to his veracity and to Samuel Hymer a preacher of the Gospel all of whom can testify to his veracity and to their belief of his having served in the
army of the Revolution.
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name not on the Pension roll of any agency of any state within his knowledge or belief.
Sworn to & subscribed in open court the day and year first aforesaid.
ELISHA DYAR
sign.
Thomas King, Clk.
We Samuel

Father: James DYAR b: Abt 1736 in Prince George County, MD
Mother: Ann DYEL b: Abt 1735 in MD

Marriage 1 Malvina Lavonia WHEELER b: 22 Jan 1760 in Granville County, NC
Married: 2 Jan 1790 in Georgetown, MD
Note:
The marriage in Georgetown (see below), if it actually occurred there, would have been just a few miles from Elisha's birthplace at Great Falls of the Potomac, Virginia.This, combined with references to the birth of Elisha and Malvina's oldest son, John "Jackie" Dyar, in Georgetown, leads one to believe that the Dyars visited or perhaps resided in the Potomac area of Virginia or Maryland before moving to Georgia. However, it should be noted that Elisha Dyer's Revolutionary Pension application does not mention this.
From DC GenWeb: Georgetown, Maryland -- 1751-1790
Before the District was created in 1790, the Maryland portion (what is now DC) was in Montgomery County, MD from 1776 - 1790. Prior to 1776, it was in Frederick County, MD. Until the Federal City was built, the port of Georgetown was the only major town within the current DC boundaries, with the port of Alexandria on the other side of the Potomac. Although the town of Frederick was the county seat of Frederick County, Georgetown rapidly grew to rival and surpass it in size. When Montgomery County was created, Georgetown became the county seat. Thus, anyone researching Georgetown relatives prior to 1790 should look in the records of Montgomery County, and before 1776, in the records of Frederick County.
Children
John DYAR b: Dec 1790 in NC
Joel Hunter DYAR b: Abt 1794 in Pendleton, SC
Rebecca DYAR b: 1796
William DYAR b: Abt 1798 in Pendleton, SC
Mary Polly DYAR b: Abt 1800
Melvina DYAR b: Abt 1802
Malinda Elizabeth DYAR b: Abt 1805 in Franklin County, GA
Martin DYAR b: 7 Jul 1808 in Franklin County, GA
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ID: I515000927
Name: Martin DYAR
Given Name: Martin
Surname: Dyar
Sex: M
Birth: 7 Jul 1808 in Franklin County, GA
Death: 28 Jun 1872 in Oconee, SC
Burial: Oconee, SC

Father: Elisha DYAR b: 6 May 1763 in Great Falls, Fairfax County, VA
Mother: Malvina Lavonia WHEELER b: 22 Jan 1760 in Granville County, NC

Marriage 1 Rhoda RUSSELL b: 20 Jul 1806 in Pickens County, SC
Children
James Abner DYAR b: Abt 1824
Lou Tina DYAR b: Abt 1826
Elizbeth DYAR b: Abt 1828
John Warren DYAR b: Abt 1830
James B. DYAR b: Abt 1832
John W. DYAR b: Abt 1834
Jean L. DYAR b: Abt 1836
Edith DYAR b: Abt 1839
Susie DYAR b: Abt 1842
Rhoda DYAR b: Abt 1845
Sara Ann DYAR b: Abt 1848
H. Bowles DYAR b: Abt 1840
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ID: I515000977
Name: Malvina Lavonia WHEELER
Given Name: Malvina Lavonia
Surname: Wheeler
Sex: F
Birth: 22 Jan 1760 in Granville County, NC
Death: Abt 1820 in Franklin County, GA
Burial: New Prospect Baptist Cemetery, Hartwell, Hart County, GA
Note:
Originally interred at the Dyer homeplace on the Tugaloo River, now in Hart Co., Georgia. Reinterred at New Prospect Baptist Churchyard whn the homeplace was flooded with the creation of Lake Hartwell.
That Malvina was born in 1760 to Martin Wheeler and Priscilla Roberts (both born circa 1700?) is questionable, at best. This information, most frequesntly attributed to "The Wheelers of Granville County, North Carolina" by Frances Wheeler, actually comes from Harriet Boozer's fine
book on the Wells, Dyer, and Farris families. While this source states that Malvina is the daughter of Martin Wheeler of Granville Co., North Carolina, it offers no supporting evidence. I am aware of no evidence (or
lack thereof) that Malvina was the product of a second marriage by Martin. Is it possible that Malvina is from a different family altogether, or that she is the grandaughter of Martin Wheeler (note that Martin's son, William, is said to have a daughter Levina -- could earlier researchers have confused the issue? Lav(onia) + (Mal)vina = Lavina?
Plausible, if one can discount record of Levina Wheeler's marriage to one America Jones.
For the presnt I have decided to list Malvina's parents as unknown, though information on Martin Wheeler and his ancestors remains in the file.
--John Gillon
Note:
(Research):_________________
Letter from Kenneth Dyer to Frances Wheeler
August 16, 1992
Dear Mrs. Wheeler,
I regret the delay in responding to your letter of April 28th,but it seems there is always another emergency to take care of. Youasked me to help you determine the parentage of some of the Wheelers.I have not researched the Wheelers, nevertheless have picked up a few bits of interesting data. The following comments are probably
not new to you, but they pretty well cover all I know on the Wheelers.
Regarding the Wheeler-Dyer connections: The enclosure from
from "John Wheeler 1630-1693 of Charles County, Maryland" shows an interesting connection. Note that Benjamin Wheeler's daughter, Ann, married a Dyer. She was about the right age to have been the wife of James Dyer who moved from near the Great Falls of the Potomac to Granville Co. NC about 1765; however, in 1770, under the name of Ann
Scott, she sold land deeded to her by her father in 1751. It does not seem likely that Ann Dyer of NC would have deserted her husband and children to marry some man with the surname, Scott. Two sons of our James Dyer (Elisha & William) married Wheeler girls (Malvina & Sarah - sisters?). There was another Elisha Dyer who married Jane
Wheeler 10 Feb. 1814 in Warren Co. KY. Another Wheeler-Dyer
connection is to be found when William Dyer died intestate in the spring of 1754/55 in Prince George's County, MD. Susannah Dyer was administratrix and Ignatious Wheeler and Malcome McBean were her bondsmen.
I am about to conclude that Paul Dyer may have been right after all in assigning James Dyer who married Ann Dyal (or Ann Wheeler) as a descendant of Patrick Dyer. I had always questioned this, but now I'm not so sure. When Sarah Wheeler married William Dyer in Granville Co NC in
1787 it was a Benjamin Wheeler who signed the bond. What relationship was he to Sarah? I suspect this Benjamin was the nephew of the Benjamin Wheeler who died in Prince Georges Co MD in 1769.
Another Dyer-Wheeler connection is on p. 1680 of NC Genealogy:
Among 1778 Surry County, NC petition signers were Ambrose Wheeler and John Dyer. On p. 1679 was William Ramsey, possibly the father or brother of Joel Ramsey who went to Russell Co VA. There was a John Dyer on a Surry Co, NC tax list in 1771. Mrs. Mellander wrote that one of her
contacts pointed out that Elisha Dyer, son of Jas/Ann, married Malvina Wheeler in Georgetown, MD/DC. How did they know the location? Did they give the date? It would have to be many years after his father, James, had moved to NC. Could this information have been in Elisha Dyer's

Father: Martin WHEELER

Marriage 1 Elisha DYAR b: 6 May 1763 in Great Falls, Fairfax County, VA
Married: 2 Jan 1790 in Georgetown, MD
Note:
The marriage in Georgetown (see below), if it actually occurred there, would have been just a few miles from Elisha's birthplace at Great Falls of the Potomac, Virginia.
This, combined with references to the birth of Elisha and Malvina's oldest son, John "Jackie" Dyar, in Georgetown, leads one to believe that the Dyars visited or perhaps resided in the Potomac area of Virginia or Maryland before moving to Georgia. However, it should be noted that
Elisha Dyer's Revolutionary Pension application does not mention this.
From DC GenWeb: Georgetown, Maryland -- 1751-1790
Before the District was created in 1790, the Maryland portion (what is now DC) was in Montgomery County, MD from 1776 - 1790. Prior to 1776, it was in Frederick County, MD. Until the Federal City was built, the port of Georgetown was the only major town within the current DC boundaries, with the port of Alexandria on the other side of the Potomac. Although the town of Frederick was the county seat of Frederick County, Georgetown rapidly grew to rival and surpass it in size. When Montgomery County was created, Georgetown became the county seat. Thus, anyone researching Georgetown relatives prior to 1790 should look in the records of Montgomery County, and before 1776, in the records of Frederick County.
Children
John DYAR b: Dec 1790 in NC
Joel Hunter DYAR b: Abt 1794 in Pendleton, SC
Rebecca DYAR b: 1796
William DYAR b: Abt 1798 in Pendleton, SC
Mary Polly DYAR b: Abt 1800
Melvina DYAR b: Abt 1802
Malinda Elizabeth DYAR b: Abt 1805 in Franklin County, GA
Martin DYAR b: 7 Jul 1808 in Franklin County, GA
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2. Elisha DYAR was born 6 May 1763 in Great Falls, Fairfax County, VA, and died 21 May 1846 in Franklin County, GA. He was buried Abt 1846 in New Prospect Baptist Cemetery, Hartwell, Hart County, GA. He was the son of 4. James DYAR and 5. Ann DYEL.

3. Malvina Lavonia WHEELER was born 22 Jan 1760 in Granville County, NC, and died Abt 1820 in Franklin County, GA. She was buried in New Prospect Baptist Cemetery, Hartwell, Hart County, GA. She was the daughter of 6. Martin WHEELER.

Children of Malvina Lavonia WHEELER and Elisha DYAR are:
i. John DYAR was born Dec 1790 in NC, and died Dec 1859. He married Martha BOBO.
ii. Joel Hunter DYAR was born Abt 1794 in Pendleton, SC, and died Abt 1863. He married Rachel SANDERS.
iii. Rebecca DYAR was born 1796. She married William Singleton Pickett CRAWFORD. He was born Abt 1787, and died 19 Jan 1853.
iv. William DYAR was born Abt 1798 in Pendleton, SC. He married Mary BURDETT 23 Sep 1823 in Wilkerson County, GA.
v. Mary Polly DYAR was born Abt 1800. She married William SMITH.
vi. Melvina DYAR was born Abt 1802, and died 6 Jul 1886. She married George HORNEBUCKLE.
vii. Malinda Elizabeth DYAR was born Abt 1805 in Franklin County, GA, and died 8 Jul 1886 in Atlanta, Fulton County, GA. She married Jeremiah WELLS. He was born Abt 1801, and died Abt 1883.
1. viii. Martin DYAR was born 7 Jul 1808 in Franklin County, GA, and died 28 Jun 1872 in Oconee, SC. He married Rhoda RUSSELL. She was born 20 Jul 1806 in Pickens County, SC, and died 30 Aug 1889.

Ahnentafel, Generation No. 3

4. James DYAR was born Abt 1736 in Prince George County, MD, and died Abt 1804 in Russell, VA. He was the son of 8. William DYAR and 9. Suzannah ?.

5. Ann DYEL was born Abt 1735 in MD, and died Abt 1785 in Granville County, NC. She was the daughter of 10. James DYEL and 11. Elizabeth ?.

Children of Ann DYEL and James DYAR are:
2. i. Elisha DYAR was born 6 May 1763 in Great Falls, Fairfax County, VA, and died 21 May 1846 in Franklin County, GA. He married Malvina Lavonia WHEELER 2 Jan 1790 in Georgetown, MD, daughter of Martin WHEELER. She was born 22 Jan 1760 in Granville County, NC, and died Abt 1820 in Franklin County, GA.
ii. Baldwin DYAR was born Abt 1764, and died 20 Nov 1814.
iii. William DYAR was born Abt 1766 in Granville County, NC.
iv. Linna DYAR was born Bet 1762 and 1770.
v. Wiley DYAR was born 25 Apr 1775 in Granville County, NC, and died Abt 1847 in Daingerfield, Morris County, TX.

6. Martin WHEELER.

Child of Martin WHEELER is:
3. i. Malvina Lavonia WHEELER was born 22 Jan 1760 in Granville County, NC, and died Abt 1820 in Franklin County, GA. She married Elisha DYAR 2 Jan 1790 in Georgetown, MD, son of James DYAR and Ann DYEL. He was born 6 May 1763 in Great Falls, Fairfax County, VA, and died 21 May 1846 in Franklin County, GA.

Ahnentafel, Generation No. 4

8. William DYAR was born Abt 1704 in King George Parish, Prince George County, MD, and died Abt 1754 in MD. He was the son of 16. Patrick DYAR and 17. Comfort BARNES.

9. Suzannah ?.

Child of Suzannah ? and William DYAR is:
4. i. James DYAR was born Abt 1736 in Prince George County, MD, and died Abt 1804 in Russell, VA. He married Ann DYEL Abt 1760 in MD or VA, daughter of James DYEL and Elizabeth ?. She was born Abt 1735 in MD, and died Abt 1785 in Granville County, NC.

10. James DYEL died Bet 1765 and 1766.

11. Elizabeth ?.

Child of Elizabeth ? and James DYEL is:
5. i. Ann DYEL was born Abt 1735 in MD, and died Abt 1785 in Granville County, NC. She married James DYAR Abt 1760 in MD or VA, son of William DYAR and Suzannah ?. He was born Abt 1736 in Prince George County, MD, and died Abt 1804 in Russell, VA.

Ahnentafel, Generation No. 5

16. Patrick DYAR was born Abt 1682 in West County, England, and died Abt 1724 in Prince George County, MD.

17. Comfort BARNES was born Abt 1680 in Somerset, England, and died Abt 1760 in MD. She was the daughter of 34. Francis BARNES and 35. Comfort CLARKE.

Children of Comfort BARNES and Patrick DYAR are:
8. i. William DYAR was born Abt 1704 in King George Parish, Prince George County, MD, and died Abt 1754 in MD. He married Suzannah ? Abt 1735 in Prince George County, VA.
ii. Sarah DYAR was born Abt 1704.
iii. Penelope DYAR was born Abt 1707.
iv. Elizabeth DYAR was born 22 Jan 1711/12.
v. Rebecca DYAR was born 12 Mar 1713/14.
vi. Thomas DYAR was born 12 Dec 1715.
vii. James DYAR was born 4 Oct 1717.
viii. Edward DYAR was born 29 Dec 1719.

Ahnentafel, Generation No. 6

34. Francis BARNES.

35. Comfort CLARKE.

Child of Comfort CLARKE and Francis BARNES is:
17. i. Comfort BARNES was born Abt 1680 in Somerset, England, and died Abt 1760 in MD. She married Patrick DYAR 12 Oct 1702 in St. Johns Parish, Prince Georges, MD. He was born Abt 1682 in West County, England, and died Abt 1724 in Prince George County, MD.


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