From the other messages, you have the relationship between Johann Jacob Holbein, Christian Adam Hobel, Silvester Holbe and Conrad Holbe. We do not know their relationship to Ernestine although you are probably correct. As an up date, male descendents of Silvester, Wilhelm Holby, Conrad and me from Johann Jacob did a DNA test several months ago and we have a common ancestor 8 - 12 generations back which would be about the 1600's. This would be reasonable. However, there is no way to compare DNA through the female line. Ernestine did come from Hesse, Germany which is in the general area of the others. Johan Jacob was from Odenwald, Germany.
We have just found that Conrad Holbe left Lynn Twp., Lehigh Co. (then Northampton Co) about 1768 and moved to Harrisonburg, VA where the name changed to Hulvey. I was to the Hulvey reunion several weeks ago.
I am not aware of Frederick being a child of Johann Jacob. The 2 daughters married the same man, Jost Gorg (George) who moved to Greene Co., TN in the late 1700's. I have not heard of the Schumacher Church in Weisenberg Twp. There was the Weisenberg, Lowhill, Heidelberg and Ziegel churches in the area. Where is it and where are their records ?
You can find my line from Johann Jacob (Holbein) Holben, the Silvester line, the Holby line and the Hulvey line on Rootsweb World Connect at www.rootsweb.com.
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